The other situation where the forcing pass comes up at low levels is after an opening 1-bid has been doubled and redoubled. Given a disciplined redouble, which "implies no fit" and thus, in my opinion, denies three (or more) cards in support for partner's major unless it is a very flat hand, our side is in a force. Not to game but, by convention, through the two-level.
In other words, the opponents may not play a contract at the two-level or below unless it is doubled. Of course, we can continue bidding to the three level (or game) if we think that is better. But in the following auction, pass is 100% forcing. But pass does seem in this situation to be not very descriptive.
2♠ would tend to show some sort of distributional monster that wants to force to game. The given hand seems like a case in point. 3♣ would be descriptive but non-forcing. I'm not really sure if there are any other bids (other than 3NT) that make much sense here.
What this hand should not do is double. Double here says, I have a minimum hand (although at favorable vulnerability, we might have a maximum hand too) but spades is my second suit. Something like ♠KJ96 ♥Q3 ♦QT5 ♣KQ83. Hopefully, we will be plus 200 when we probably have no game. With significantly more than 10 hcp, partner can of course pull the double to a game contract, knowing that spades are stopped, and that we need 600 rather than 200 or 500.
With any other hand, that's to say nothing particular to say, pass is just fine (it definitely doesn't in any way limit the strength of your hand because it is 100% forcing). Pass would however, tend to limit the distribution of your hand.
For more on my thoughts about redouble, see The blue card.
The thing I don't get about the forcing pass is the caveat that the opponents can't play undoubled at the two-level or below. What is a scenario where you have the balance of power yet you would let the opponents escape undoubled at the three level or higher?
ReplyDeleteI'm sure such a scenario is unusual. But sometimes, especially if the opponents have the spades, it can be that they can outbid our side even though we have the BOP. Of course, diagnosing such a situation and resisting the double when they can make 9 tricks (and we can't and are vulnerable) takes discipline. I can't ever remember such a situation happening.
DeleteWhat about passing and then bidding on partner's double ?
ReplyDeleteShould be stronger than a direct bid. Only, not sure what I would bid here: 2H ? 3SA, would 2C or even 3C be forcing ?
Indeed. I should have mentioned that. By analogy with pass-and-pull at the game level which would be a strong slam invitation, pass-and-pull at the part-score level should be a strong game invitation (or better).
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